GATORS BUCKEYES

[mur7932]

WELL GOING AGAINST MYSELF A LITTLE BIT HERE. I LIKED FLORIDA ALL WEEK BUT IT LOOKS AS THOUGH PEOPLE R BETTING THIS ONE DOWN. I AM TAKING THEBUCKEYES AS I THINK TALENT WINS OUT HERE AND THEY R ONE OF THE FEW TEAMS OUTSIDE OF THE SEC THAT CAN MATCH ANY TEAM IN THE SEC WITH TEAM SPEED. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUCCESFULLY RUN THE BALL ON THE GATORS D AND I THINK THIS GAME WILL START OUT SLOW BUT BY THE SECOND QUARTER IT SHOULD OPEN UP AND I DO NOT THINK THE GATORS CAN KEEP UP WITH THE BUCK EYES. OSU -7

[shifter]

I agree with you on this one Mur, I was on the fence for while but I am going with the better team here and in my opinion Ohio St will win this one and I think will be high scoring as well... I think both coaches will have there teams ready for this game but I think the Buckeyes will play the better defense in this game, and have more playmakers on both sides of the ball... I am taking Ohio St -7 and the Over in this game... and what the hell I am teasing them both as well... last college game this season why the hell not..

Ohio St -7 (3 units)
Over 46 (3 units)
Teaser Ohio St -1
Over 40 (3 units)

GL tonight guys but thats what i am siding with

Shift

[Hyman Roth]

I don't think it's necessarily people here mur, more of the public are on Ohio State. I think you're very right about OSU's talent level though. Ohio State has only played one bad half of football all year (vs. Illinois) while Florida has had at least one horrible quarte in every game they played this year. Troy Smith is also completing an astounding 73% of his passes inside the red zone with 20 TD's thrown to 8 different receivers. I laso don't think UF has seen a QB near as good as Smith all season as there is nobody that really comes close to Smith as far as QB's go in the SEC, the guy simply does not make mistakes.

[mur7932]

HYMAN I THINK U R DEAD ON ABOUT THE GATORS AND THE 1 BAD QUARTER EVERY GAME, IF THEY HAVE THAT TONITE IT COULD GET UGLY. THE ONLY THING I DO NOT LIKE ABOUT THE GAME IS ALL THE TIME OFF AND THE SHAPE FACTOR OF TROY SMITH GOING O DIFFERENT BANQUETS AND RECEIVING AWARDS, BUT IT DOES NOT SCARE ME ENOUGH TO BET ON THE GATORS.

[Hyman Roth]

I know it man, 50 days is a helluva long time. Leak has been average at best also lately throwing an equal amount of TD's and INT's ober the last half of the season (8).

[irvjac]

Okay Guys have read all the stuff about pro Ohio State and the Service Plays, some on Ohio State...Game of Year Winner and the bullshit and others on Florida State as underdog of the year. All the hype so I will tell you my thinking on the game and my thouight process. You can all then look to make your own sound decision.


FLORIDA +7 XXXXXXXXX
UNDER 47


For over a month now we have heard all about the "what ifs",
"should haves, could haves, would haves and how Florida has no business being here. Well, bottom line in my opinion they DO belong here and will work extra hard with incentive to prove it tonight. Coming into the season Florida was predicted as the National Champion. In fact, I love them even more because the public isn't even giving them a chance. Do we believe the SEC is
the best conference in football, I certainly do. I liked USC when the public was on Michigan and we saw USC's stomping Michigan, NOT a fluke.
Now, Ohio State only played one team with a winning record on the road and at one stretch played 7 consecutive games against teams with losing records, 7 in a row. Meanwhile, Florida is
battle-tested with 10 of their opponents BOWL teams. Florida at one stretch they played Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and
Georgia in that order. True, they lost to Auburn but the Tigers
caught the Gators at the perfect time, at home and with Florida coming off a huge home win over LSU and with another important home game following with Georgia!
Troy Smith won the Heisman. Wow. Now, Leak completed almost 63% of his passes and for more yards than Smith and against the best defenses in the nation. Okay, Ohio State is good, but theyhey have not seen team speed like this the entire season. I believe this match up is a mirror image of the USC-Michigan game and I am expecting the same resuly. Coming into the
season Ohio State's weakness was supposed to be their defense but it appeared that wasn't the case. Or did their weak schedule make them look much better than they really are?
We will find out tonight.
These are the games that the Service Plays and Vegas gets rich off of and the media keeps swaying more and more of the public to the Buckeyes. Not me.

Some statistics:

Bowl dogs are 9-2 SU and a PERFECT 11-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a conference championship. Additionally, certain SEC bowl dogs of more than 4 points are 9-1 SU and a PERFECT 10-0 ATS since 1998, including Kentucky this year. Meanwhile, certain bowl faves of less than 11 points are a terrible 3-11 SU and a PERFECT 0-14 ATS when coming off 35 or more days rest. FLORIDA WINS OUTRIGHT...and cover the spread handily.

As always good luck to all, I hope my input help you make a wise decision either way you go.

[Hyman Roth]

very valid points irv, especially strength of schedule. I do think that Florida will have a tough time stopping OSU's offense though, they definately haven't faced an offense like this yet. Again, this is some great discussion going on today and this is exactly what this forum is for, thanks guys

[shifter]

Nice post Irv and your words of wisdom are appreciated... I totally hear your point of view in this one.... I was also looking at Florida they barely got by Tenn, Vandy and had to block a FG i think it was to beat S Carolina whereas Ohio St had 1 bad game in Illinois and moved the ball at will in every other game like I posted before Ohio will play the better def in this game I am backing my play like you are yours, I do see this being a high scoring game with Florida in it I agree with you the thing that scares me is it looks like Ohio St and the Over are getting pounded at least with my local bookie so hes definitely on your side, but I am not heres my prediction.....

GL Irv

Ohio St 38
Florida 27

[mur7932]

GOOD INFO BUT MY PICK IS NOT BASED ON GAME OF THE YEAR SELECTIONS BY A SCAMDICAPPER. I JUST AM LOOKING AT IT AND I FEEL AS THOUGH THE BETTER TEAM IS THE BUCKEYES, BUT I DEFINITELY SEE UR POINTS IRV ALL OF WHICH R VALID. THAT IS WHAT MAKES THIS FORUM THE BEST OUT THERE. GL MUR

[mur7932]

GOODBYE TEDDIE GINN GODAMN HE IS FAST

[irvjac]

I couldn't have predicted the outcome any better, picked an outright win, not by the spread. Hope some of you joined those who didn't get distracted by the hype, and stood with Florida.

irvjac said:

Okay Guys have read all the stuff about pro Ohio State and the Service Plays, some on Ohio State...Game of Year Winner and the bullshit and others on Florida State as underdog of the year. All the hype so I will tell you my thinking on the game and my thouight process. You can all then look to make your own sound decision.


FLORIDA +7 XXXXXXXXX
UNDER 47


For over a month now we have heard all about the "what ifs",
"should haves, could haves, would haves and how Florida has no business being here. Well, bottom line in my opinion they DO belong here and will work extra hard with incentive to prove it tonight. Coming into the season Florida was predicted as the National Champion. In fact, I love them even more because the public isn't even giving them a chance. Do we believe the SEC is
the best conference in football, I certainly do. I liked USC when the public was on Michigan and we saw USC's stomping Michigan, NOT a fluke.
Now, Ohio State only played one team with a winning record on the road and at one stretch played 7 consecutive games against teams with losing records, 7 in a row. Meanwhile, Florida is
battle-tested with 10 of their opponents BOWL teams. Florida at one stretch they played Alabama, LSU, Auburn, and
Georgia in that order. True, they lost to Auburn but the Tigers
caught the Gators at the perfect time, at home and with Florida coming off a huge home win over LSU and with another important home game following with Georgia!
Troy Smith won the Heisman. Wow. Now, Leak completed almost 63% of his passes and for more yards than Smith and against the best defenses in the nation. Okay, Ohio State is good, but theyhey have not seen team speed like this the entire season. I believe this match up is a mirror image of the USC-Michigan game and I am expecting the same resuly. Coming into the
season Ohio State's weakness was supposed to be their defense but it appeared that wasn't the case. Or did their weak schedule make them look much better than they really are?
We will find out tonight.
These are the games that the Service Plays and Vegas gets rich off of and the media keeps swaying more and more of the public to the Buckeyes. Not me.

Some statistics:

Bowl dogs are 9-2 SU and a PERFECT 11-0 ATS since 1992 when coming off a conference championship. Additionally, certain SEC bowl dogs of more than 4 points are 9-1 SU and a PERFECT 10-0 ATS since 1998, including Kentucky this year. Meanwhile, certain bowl faves of less than 11 points are a terrible 3-11 SU and a PERFECT 0-14 ATS when coming off 35 or more days rest. FLORIDA WINS OUTRIGHT...and cover the spread handily.

As always good luck to all, I hope my input help you make a wise decision either way you go.

[mur7932]

NO HYPE IRV JUST AN OPINION NICE CALL NOBODY IS 100% NO NEED TO THROW IT IN THE OTHER PEOPLES FACE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK